Premedditors. Reputation: For everywhere I have been for rotations and as a resident and/or attending (again, anonymity), LECOM students actually have a pretty good reputation. You will have a quiz/test almost every single Monday for all two years. There are 2-3 hospitals that just suck to be at (Millcreek ("Killcreek") in Erie, PA, and Arnot in Elmira, NY). ... Reddit's home for wholesome discussion related to pre-medical studies. Thank you so much for this in depth review. As above, they will NEVER cancel class because of weather. I graduated from LECOM Erie somewhere between 2015-2018 (for anonymity sake), and matched Internal Medicine at a fairly big name academic program. I don't know about the other campuses but I would say PBL leads to better comprehension, retention, and ability to communicate medical information. If a professor cannot make it for a day or two for example, they may just send you the slides and you study at home. Six spots of the 12 APAP seats are reserved for primary care (Ob/gyn, FM, IM, and peds). If they can only offer it when you're on your core Psych block, LECOM is very rigid about switching your elective and Psych blocks and usually it cannot happen. College of Osteopathic Medicine. I can't speak extremely well to it as most of my friends were LDP or PBL. Just deal with it. LECOM is a tightly run business but they offer a really fair tuition compared to so many other schools. You're going to rock it. What are your sub section scores for them MCAT? Yes they are very paternalistic about this process, but it's unfortunately what these misguided students need. LDP (lecture-directed pathway): mandatory lecture Monday-Friday, usually about 8-4 (or 8:30-4:30) every day. I was only there for a month rotation and it wasn't Ortho. Do you think the new campus, Elmira, will have satisfactory rotation spots based on your LECOM experience? chronic pain, selling supplements, consulting/promoting for Big Pharma, doing utilization management and creating new coding guidelines, "managing" a nursing home) and see if you're not being a bit hypocritical about the pay for the work they have done. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. I want to strangle every med student I meet who tells me they are done with rotations in December or February of 4th year. If the hospital can only offer a 2 or 3 week rotation and LECOM mandates a 4 week rotation, sucks for you. LECOM- Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine, Erie Campus Pre-Interview: Anyone who has ever opened SDN (every pre-med) and looked in the osteopathic session knows what LECOM is. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the Med_School_Reviews community, Continue browsing in r/Med_School_Reviews. You get a 50 minute class followed by a 10 minute break where everyone runs to the locker room to eat snacks and drink water/coffee as you cannot have drinks in the lecture room. Most of us did some Step 1 studying throughout the 2nd semester of 2nd year, then just did a condensed/shorter version of "dedicated." Are they based on assigned chapters in the textbooks and you just read on your own since there are no lectures? PBL is Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for 2 hours and you typically have OMM and other lectures (there aren't a lot, but some subjects have them) Tuesday and Thursday. Created Mar 20, 2010. If LECOM is your only choice, sure go there and make the best of it. 4 months ago. Thank you for this. I actually really liked the schedule being so predictable and fairly rigid every day, as it gave me a good structure and I could get into a good routine (gym in the morning before class, hang out with friends or play video games alone for one hour after being home, then study until 30 minutes before bedtime and read/play video games). LECOM is stricter and makes you work harder than a lot of schools (so many MD schools have a very easy 4th year) but that prepares you well for residency. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I have an interview coming up, and have a lot go questions. I think OP is referencing the LECOM Seton Hill campus as opposed to the MD school. Those first two years were the most physically fit I've ever been, and the most regimented I've been in terms of schedule and pursuing other hobbies/interests. Your Choice of Campuses in Pennsylvania and Florida LECOM’s main campus is located in Erie, PA, overlooking Lake Erie. Also about the snow, I actually would prefer to stay in the NE and deal with the snow than go to say Texas and have no seasons at all. The West Grandview Boulevard campus is less than a mile from Millcreek Community Hospital and just a few miles away from downtown Erie. Its that place that makes you wear shirt and tie to class every day, and the school where you can’t even have water in the lecture halls. Each block in first year had a very general theme and would have 2/3 of the readings mandatory. Apply now! 50 minutes is not a big deal, get over it. level 1. Just because people do it all the time, doesn't mean it's good. See above about why you shouldn't whine about this. Would I make like California in the 60's and change my DO degree to an MD degree if I could? The Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine (LECOM) is a private graduate school of medicine, dentistry, and pharmacy with a main campus in Erie, Pennsylvania, and branch campuses in Greensburg, Pennsylvania, Bradenton, Florida, and Elmira, New York. LECOM is stricter and makes you work harder than a lot of schools (so many MD schools have a very easy 4th year) but that prepares you well for residency. Especially when you meet residents/attendings that are running gigs to make $600k+ per year in their practice (e.g. In total, there are 48 student housing options available near LECOM. I agree with most of this, but I disagree that you need to be a "defiant" person to take issue with the school. You get way more self study time progressively as year 2 goes along. Mandatory Attendance for LDP (and the few PBL/DSP lectures): Yes this is also a thing (as alluded to in "mandatory lecture"). LECOM is a tightly run business but they offer a really fair tuition compared to so many other schools. Apply to Seton Hill University and the Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine (LECOM) to take advantage of cooperative degree programs in osteopathic medicine, dental medicine and pharmacy. Well I hope you got to see some ortho over in Arnot I know it’s not too big lol. There are only like 2-4 tests per semester and they are huge. LECOM believes that new trends in the Doctor of Pharmacy curriculum have complementary goals to the total-person, patient-centered care fostered by osteopathic medicine. Yes her salary is high. Or can you please direct me to someone who might be able to help with this. For OMM lab, even if it is your ONLY thing for the day...you have to show up to the school in dress clothes, change into shorts/sweatpants and T-shirt for OMM lab, change back into dress clothes, leave the building. Included: slate appliances, granite countertops, maple cabinets, luxury vinyl plank floors, and stylish plush carpets. You will have SOME self-directed (study at home) modules, and as you move into 2nd year and then 2nd half of 2nd year, you will have a lot more self-study time and less mandatory lecture. Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine Bradenton Campus 5000 Lakewood Ranch Blvd. I've lived in several towns with 1/5 or 1/10 of the snowfall and the roads were way worse...I'd rather drive in Erie any day. Maybe not for you, but for a lot of people there is something to be said for bright-eyed and bushy-tailed med students sitting in a big room surrounded by other people in dress clothes eager to become professionals...but YMMV. Our biochem is good, pharmacy is okay (not great), physiology sucks. Do you have any info about the LECOM residency programs? You must wear dress clothes all day. The professors consistently make mistakes and if you bring it up, then you are the bad person. for "surgery selective" you can pick trauma, ENT, wound care, vascular, anesthesia, ophthalmology, maybe a MOHS surgeon if you're a smooth talker, etc.). There are also "selectives," where the rotation has to be related to that thing (e.g. they ask you for campus preference on the secondary. Essentially you do a lot of textbook reading but some other formats and you also attend some lectures. If you value happiness and respect, go anywhere else. If you are absolutely terrified of driving in snow, practice now. I know many students that had to go to SPG (the school's disciplinary wing) for rather benign reasons. Most people bought knock-off dress clothes for anatomy, put them in their locker, and changed into and out of for cadaver lab. Keep your head down the entire time. So if you do poorly on one test, your grade is shot for the semester. From campuses in Erie and Greensburg, Pa. and Bradenton, Fla., LECOM provides student-centered pathways to prepare the next generation of health care professionals. OMM is taught well but we get more of it than many other DO schools. And the tuition is still a bargain. It's possible folks! Also, adults wear sweatpants in public all the time, no shame. Rotations are very rigid with LECOM and are a big downside. They also don't use cadavers at that campus though from what I understand. If you are okay with some rigidity and a bit of stupid administration things (though let's be fair every school has them) and realize that although people complain about their method it does fairly work, and are okay with cheapish tuition, FEEL FREE to come here. Glad you enjoyed it and it's honestly good you posted this for people considering this school. I feel I have a great sense of the school just from reading from this. I am also the type of person that needs more structure. A lot of the little grievances that people love to complain about at LECOM are extremely minor compared to what you will face in the real world. Work in progress so bear with us. Thanks. So I got an II for LECOM Erie, isn’t Elmira part of the same application? Again, the bottom line: if you are just an average student and are okay with just putting your head down and dealing with some bullshit here and there (which again is not unique to LECOM), it is a fine school. Some guys still rock the half-tied tie or an occasional short-sleeve dress shirt (LECOM is not a huge fan of that) to be "cool" or "rebellious" but they end up just looking like dbags. Any job you will have to abide by the silly rules, and corporate is no exception. LECOM's fourth campus is now open. At my residency the DO's on average are/were actually better than the MD's. Wow this is an insanely well done review. Thanks! LECOM rent is cheaper than the national monthly average of $1,634/mo. 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